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Posted February 05, 2007 by publisher in Cuba Human Rights

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The National Network of Solidarity with Cuba in the US is gearing up for a march to take place in New York to demand the release of the five Cubans unfairly imprisoned in that country.

Prensa Latina news agency reported that more than 70 institutions from all over the country are working on the details of the demonstration, scheduled for the coming April 7.

The National Network has called for participants to denounce the violations of the human rights of the five Cubans and their families by the White House.

The Five, as Gerardo Hernandez, Rene Gonzalez, Ramon Labañino, Antonio Guerrero and Fernando Gonzalez are internationally known, have been imprisoned in American jails since 1998 for infiltrating into Mimi-based anti-Cuba groups with the objective of preventing terrorist activities against the Cuban people and government.

In more that four decades those groups have caused the death of thousands of people and heavy economic loses.

At the April march in New York, demonstrators are expected to also demand the lifting of the economic, commercial and financial blockade imposed by Washington against Cuba since early in the 1960’s.

They will denounce in particular President Bush’s plan to destroy the Cuban revolution and Washington’s hostility against the people of Venezuela.

  1. Follow up post #1 added on February 05, 2007 by publisher with 3905 total posts

    Honestly I have not been following this case and have not formed an opinion but thought that I should at least post the information here.

    The Havana Journal owns CubanFive.com and it points to this page.

    http://FreeTheFive.org

    Wikipedia article

    FreeTheCuban5.com



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  2. Follow up post #2 added on February 06, 2007 by MiamiCuban

    I think the Cuban Five should be freed.  They are brave men who risked their lives in order to protect their country from further terrorist aggression.  Had Clinton acted wisely, he might have prevented the downing of the Brothers to the Rescue pilots; instead he went after the five men who found out about the clandestine criminal activities of the BTTR (something our own government should have investigated).  I suppose that arresting the five was an effort to appease the angry exiles who probably would have preferred an all-out invasion of Cuba in retaliation for the downing of the planes.  This is nothing new, though.  Exiles are constantly provoking Cuba every way they can, and when the Cuban government is forced to act, they’re accused of being the bad guys.  It’s a never-ending story, unfortunately, but one which will never end until we have someone in the White House with enough wisdom and guts to say enough is enough.


  3. Follow up post #3 added on February 06, 2007 by Varsi Padayachee

    Even the whole judicial process has been compromised. A Federal judge had their original convictions set aside because there was no evidence to support the Government’s charges. It is long past a year, and the FIVE are still incarcerated. It is truly amazing what a mockery our judicial system has become. Rather reminds me of the Posada Carriles farce. The US charges that Cuba, Syria, Iran and Venezuela give aid and comfort to terrorists and killers. However, given the preponderance of evidence, the US harbors a known terrorist, charging him with a petty immigration violation. And we high and mightily tell other countries to follow the law, support human rights and take the democracy high road. Some example we are!


  4. Follow up post #4 added on February 07, 2007 by Pete Chavez

    MiamiCuban, Gosh, you have such sobering views in most other areas.  Do you really buy all that hype?  This is one of Fidel’s finest hours, where this class A snow job puts everyone in the place he wants them to be.  After the Brothers to the rescue shooting, the end result is the people in Cuba are rallied against the ones in Miami and the U.S., the U.S. retreats from it’s impending raproachmont and he gets to act like a victim before the world community all over again.
    The Cuban five were there not to protect Cuba but to help create the circumstances where the raproachmont that was taking place between the U.S. and Cuba would be immideately abandoned and by the U.S only (enter Brothers to the Rescue, so they blow them out of the sky, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED) .  So once again we see how human life in Cuba is regarded with the utmost cheapness.  And just remember, the main beneficiary of the embargo has always been Fidel Castro while the Cuban people once again are used and lose, on both sides of the Florida Straits.  So do I care about the rights of “The Cuban Five”?  No, I don’t.  They should understand that they’ve put their destinies at great risk when they sign up for these abhorrent missions that result in heinous acts committed by Cubans against Cubans.


  5. Follow up post #5 added on February 10, 2007 by Ralph

    There is a clear connection between the five and spy role.they have been convicted as per the evidences,So Help me GOD.


  6. Follow up post #6 added on February 10, 2007 by Ralph

    Moreover I would like to say that the five are ideologically-motivated spies ,no merely money
    makers,but the task is the same :Spionage and the funny feature is that the-
    american low pretend that everybody who wants to spy for another government,
    has to be registered and of course,the five have broken it,then they are punishable,so the veredict was fair no matter if the code of the five is ideologically motivated or not.The factual is that the counts against them are true.That is nothing but the Truth.


  7. Follow up post #7 added on February 11, 2007 by MiamiCuban

    Do the U.S.‘s spies who are “tracking down terrorists” enlist with foreign governments as being spies?  I highly doubt it.

    Does not Cuba have the right to protect itself by investigating the illegal activities of terrorist groups in the U.S.?

    There are laws that are moral and just and meant to protect people.  In the case of the Cuban 5, the laws that were “broken” only served to protect the guilty and incriminate the innocent.


  8. Follow up post #8 added on February 12, 2007 by Pete Chavez

    #2.“Does not Cuba have the right to protect itself by investigating the illegal activities of terrorist groups in the U.S.?”

    Dear Miamicuban,  Sure as long as they don’t get caught.  Isn’t that why it’s called spying.

    #3.“There are laws that are moral and just and meant to protect people.  In the case of the Cuban 5, the laws that were “broken” only served to protect the guilty and incriminate the innocent.”

    Miamicuban, I really don’t know what you mean by that?  Would you be able to put it in simpler terms for me?  If not, who is guilty that is getting off scott free and who is the innocent party that is being incriminated?
    When I was a kid in the 80’s (in Miami), I was part of a student group in College that supported and worked on a political grass roots level, to dismantle the apartheid government in South Africa.  There were incindentally white South African students in the group and a few black South African exiles.  So do you think that it would have been honorable for Apartheid agents to infiltrate our group in order to identify dissenters and contacts of our group in South Africa, to then incarcarate and maybe kill them there?  So would you then say that the Apartheid agents were innocent and in an honorable fight just because they would have been there to preserve and defend their civilization (the way they see civilzation to be, however heinous you and I might find it)?  Because at the end of the day the Cuban five are fighting to preserve oppression of their own people and were cowardly spying on Cubans that are free to engage in whatever political movement they see fit to engage in, in an open society.  And whether you want to see it or not, they are there fighting for the liberation of their country from oppression.  I might add that the great feat of the Cuban Five is that they caused the deaths of four defenseless people and further tightened the Embargo and caused a turning away by the U.S. in a moment when it felt it was time to start a dialogue, of course all of this being cleverly much to the advantage of the 3 stooges in Havana. 
    I guess it’s all in the eye of the beholder.


  9. Follow up post #9 added on February 12, 2007 by MiamiCuban

    Sorry, Pete, but I fail to see the logic in anything you’ve said…..complicated explanations are what have gotten us all into the mess we’re in where no one is communicating .  I guess you’re right about one thing:  “It’s all in the eye of the beholder.”  And that, my friend, will never change.  That means the ONLY solution is to refrain from any and all aggressive acts (wars, sanctions, etc.) towards others and let the chips fall where they may.


  10. Follow up post #10 added on February 12, 2007 by Varsi Padayachee

    MiamiCuban, There a a great many out there who claim to have supported the Anti-Apartheid movement, after the fact. Sort the arm chair quarterback type. However, I seem to recall that most of the pro-Apartheid supporters were US Govt. sanctioned like Big Jack Abrahamoff. We also had journaist like Smith Hempstone who vehemently defended the NAZI Policies of that Country. And let us not forget Big Time Dick Cheney who voted against the resloution calling for Mandela’s release. But I do digress.
    Given the twisted momentum of world affairs, you are absoluely correct in that straight forward solutions need to be applied. Look at Iraq under Saddham. We had him contained. Now we have An unjustified war, and the destruction of a peoples. Now we have Iran as the target, based on a lot of hot air from some very “brave” unindentified US Army folks. And we also have Condi Rice who claimed that the US officials met with the Catholic Conference in Venezuela, who complained about being persecuted by the Venez. Govt. This morning the Vice President of this conference issued a statement that said that no meeting ever took place, and that Rice should not go about telling lies.
    Talk about complicating the issue!


  11. Follow up post #11 added on February 12, 2007 by Pete Chavez

    “That means the ONLY solution is to refrain from any and all aggressive acts (wars, sanctions, etc.) towards others and let the chips fall where they may.” 

    Miamicuban, I see, so according to you, then you and I would be living under Batista right now (or a son of his) and Che never should’ve gotten out of bed.  Oh, and Varsi would still be living in a black township in South Africa. 

    Varsi, I saw that interview with Condeleeza Rice, it was on the New Hour with Jim Lehrer.  Rice said the Catholic Church, not a Venezuelan rep. of the Catholic Church.  As reported by Margeret Warner, the press and govt. in Venezuela have taken that statement of maybe ten lines and turned it into an international incident for themselves.  So for all anyone knows, it could have been someone at the Vatican or even church officials in the U.S.  I don’t know what the big deal is, It’s just Chavez being Chavez, he is the fourth stooge “Shemp”, he’s learned all his tricks from the 3 in Havana.  I also am really surprized at your stance about Venezuela, it’s hard to believe with a Colombian (I spelled it in Spanish for you) wife that you could find anything remarkable to say about the new cabal of oppression that is being formed in Venezuela.  Most Latin Americans are on to him, from left to right.  Miamicuban, incidentally Chavez plays straight into your refrain from aggresive acts rule.  Chaves is a “golpista” Varsi, that means a Coupdetat-ist.  He did it in 1993 and went to jail for it.  How the Venezuelan people allowed a golpista with a criminal record to even declare himself for candidacy in a democratic election is beyond me.  What’s going to be interesting is to see how when Rice, Bush and the whole lot of them are out of power pretty soon, how Chavez is going to try to find a way to enemize himself with the new government.  Well I am digressing too.  My point to Miamicuban’s post is you can’t have it both ways it makes not any sense.


  12. Follow up post #12 added on February 13, 2007 by Varsi Padayachee

    Mr. Pete Chavez. That is the beauty of honest dissent. You have your say, and as far as I have noted, while many might disagree with you, there is’nt a clamour to drown you out with name calling or other such infantile utterances. This is a classic example. You voice loudly about democracy and human rights and all the wonderful graces of a civilized society. However, you cannot accept a point of view that is contra to yours. It does appear that you want it both ways.
    Re: Venezuela and its Pres. Chavez. Pure and unadulterated democracy.
    This is an article by Liza Figeroa-Clark of the US Based Venezuela Analysis Think Tank, and not the interview you laud.
    Bishop Calls Rice a “liar” Rice claimed that the Venezuelan Catholic Church was “under fire” from the Venezuelan government and said that U.S. officials had met with Venezuelan Catholic authorities

    Angered outspoken critic of the Venezuelan Govt., Monsignor Roberto Lückert, Archbishop of Coro, Falcón state, and vice-president of the Venezuelan Bishops’ Conference (CEV) stated that “This lady was way out of line when she said such things that are not true [sic]. This is a lie. I am the vice-president of the Venezuelan Bishops’ Conference and I have never felt that we have been invited or asked for a hearing with the board of directors of the CEV to say what this lady claims,” said Monsignor Lückert, according to the Venezuelan daily, El Universal.
    Monsignor Lückert told Union Radio, a private radio station, on Thursday, that the CEV’s board of directors had met recently but “it has not talked about the fact that the US Ambassador to Venezuela or any other US official is concerned about us. I think this lady was very clumsy” to speak otherwise, he added.
    In addition given you abhorrence for “criminals” being free to engage in the democratic process, I would love to hear your views on Posada Carrilles, Orlando Bosch, Elliot Abrahams, G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North, and the former Pres. of Bolivia, the former President of Panama and the ex-President of Peru. These lofty individuals seem to enjoy the full benefit of the democratic process you suggest is denied to Pres. Chavez. And yes I know, that is Venezuela and this is the US. Two different standards of the democratic process. Correct?


  13. Follow up post #13 added on February 13, 2007 by Pete Chavez

    “That is the beauty of honest dissent. You have your say, and as far as I have noted, while many might disagree with you, there is’nt a clamour to drown you out with name calling or other such infantile utterances.”

    Dear Varsi, The only one that has ever clamored to drown me out and degenerate a debate into infantile name calling, not to mentiion character assasintation, is you.  And you were duly censured for it.  And on subsequent threads you solicited the publisher to remove me.  And again you were not successful.  I for one,  prefer that publisher spend his time finding interesting articles and reports instead of having to be commandeered by you to babysit the site (of which, apparently you are the only one that seems to need it).

    “However, you cannot accept a point of view that is contra to yours. It does appear that you want it both ways.”

    Dear Varsi, This is the heart of your problem.  Anyone that has an opinion contrary to yours has to endure these endless “EDITORIAL TIRADES” that evenutally degrade into personal attacks.  I think it is high time you put that defective crystal ball down and make the effort to agree to disagree in earnest.


  14. Follow up post #14 added on February 13, 2007 by publisher with 3905 total posts

    Ding Ding. This round is over.

    Please stay on topic and avoid personal comments about members.

    If one does not agree with the way a member responds, every member has access to all the “ink” they want so long as the ISSUES are debated.

    Let’s avoid personal attacks and commentary.

    For example, when someone wants to say “It’s people like you…” one should say “It is ideologies like yours…” Something like that.

    Thank you.



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  15. Follow up post #15 added on September 16, 2007 by publisher with 3905 total posts

    From Prensa Latina

      International Day for Cuban Five Freedom Commemorated Worldwide

    Havana, Sept 12 (acn) A new international campaign to demand the immediate release of the five Cuban antiterrorist fighters unjustly held in US prisons is beginning on September 12 and will run until October 8, the occasion of the ninth anniversary of their imprisonment.
     

    Cuban News Agency

     

    World organizations in solidarity with Cuba are rallying on Wednesday in several sites around the planet to protest the five’s unfair incarceration and demand their freedom.

    As part of the campaign, one of the defense lawyers of the Cuban Five, Leonard Weinglass, will brief a large audience at the Howard University, in Washington, on the details of the case that Washington has surrounded in a wall of silence.

    Likewise, a video message by popular US actor Danny Glover supporting the Five’s cause will be screened in that US higher education institution.

    Gerardo Hernandez, Ramon Labanino, Fernando Gonzalez, Antonio Guerrero and Rene Gonzalez, known worldwide as ‘the Cuban Five’, were detained in 1998 after they had infiltrated right-wing Cuban American organizations in southern Florida to prevent terrorist activities against the Cuban and American people.

    They were charged with espionage and punished with extremely harsh sentences despite the antiterrorist nature of their mission. After nine years in prison for crimes they never committed, most legal experts believe there are no grounds to keep the Cuban Five imprisoned.



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