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Che Guevara - Revolutionary, Murderer or just a T-shirt icon?

Posted December 13, 2004 by publisher in Cuba Culture.
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By Madeline Baro Diaz | Sun Sentinel

Ernesto “Che” Guevara’s face is a familiar one around the world, stamped on shirts, hats, postcards, lighters and other items.

To some, the famous picture of the revolutionary with the beret, long hair, scraggly moustache and faraway gaze, symbolizes idealism and rebellion.

To many Cuban exiles, however, he’s a ruthless killer who helped establish a totalitarian regime in their homeland.

Today, those exiles seem to be feeling a heightened Guevara presence. The movie The Motorcycle Diaries had screen star Gael Garcia Bernal as Guevara and, until recently, clothing with Guevara’s face on it could be found at Burlington Coat Factory.

“There’s a whole phenomenon going on with Che Guevara that’s really difficult to explain,” said Valentin Prieto, a Cuban-American who has written about Guevara in his online Babalu Blog, where he also posted information on protests against Guevara merchandise.

“You have kids who don’t even know who Che Guevara is wearing his clothes. Che Guevara to Cubans is a murderer.”

An Argentine doctor, Guevara fought alongside Fidel Castro in the revolution that overthrew Fulgencio Batista’s government in Cuba. He held various posts with the new government and was involved in attempts to export Cuba’s revolution to other countries. During one such attempt in 1967, he was caught and executed in Bolivia, cementing his legend for those who saw the Marxist as an anti-establishment icon.

The growing myth bothers people such as Prieto, who say it glorifies a man who put scores of Cubans to death by firing squad.

“I think of my father or my mother who lived seeing people get taken away by Che Guevara and his henchmen,” said Prieto, 39. “I can’t imagine the pain that they must feel to see a kid on television rapping, wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt.”

Teenagers in Che wear, such as one featured in a Burlington Coat Factory television commercial earlier this year, were offensive enough for those who bristle at Guevara goods. But a baby outfit featured in Time magazine’s recent gift guide really riled them up.

The Guevara onesie is sold by La La Ling, a Los Angeles children’s store that promotes the outfit online with a description that reads, “Do you have a little revolutionary on your hands?”

“It’s one of our top sellers,” said store owner Ling Chan. “The Che image is just trendy right now.”

After appearing in Time, Chan’s online sales increased, but so did the hate mail. Last weekend a handful of protesters showed up outside her store.

Chan said she doesn’t know much about Guevara’s history and has heard both from those who view Guevara as a hero and those who call him a villain.

“I don’t think people are buying the shirt necessarily because of his exact politics,” she said. “I have a baby store, and in my eyes it’s just a T-shirt.”

Both Chan and Appaman, the company that makes the baby clothes, say they will keep selling Che items.

Burlington Coat Factory, however, has pulled Che clothing off its racks. In a statement, the company said it sold Che Guevara T-shirts earlier this year “as a trendy item” but removed the shirts from stores after receiving complaints.

Gloria La Riva, who has coordinated efforts to free five Cuban men convicted of spy-related charges in the United States, said she had a college roommate in the 1970s who had a Guevara poster. Curious about who he was, she ended up learning about and supporting the Cuban revolution.

“I think he represents an ideal of justice and of equality and sacrifice,” she said. “He made the sacrifice of his own life. ... He was trying to help the people of Bolivia.”

La Riva said Guevara is hated because of his efforts to spread socialism. She disputes the characterization of him as a cold-blooded killer.

She contends the government Guevara helped put in place has saved millions of lives through programs such as immunization for children.

La Riva said more young people are taking an interest in learning about Guevara, and seeing his face on clothes might stoke that interest.

At one point, Prieto tried to sell his own shirts with an anti-Che sentiment on them, but copyright issues over the Guevara image, snapped by the late Cuban photographer Alberto Korda, ended that effort. One aspect of Guevara merchandise, however, brings a bit of satisfaction to detractors.

“Che Guevara was a communist Marxist anti-capitalist,” Prieto said. “There’s people making money off his image. That’s the delicious irony of it. He must be spinning in his grave.”

Madeline Baro Diaz can be reached at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) or 305-810-5007.

Member Comments

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On December 14, 2004, Ozzie wrote:

I wish I could find a T-shirt with a picture of Guevara between cross hairs. That one I would buy and wear proudly as a young Cuban. Every elder Cuban that lived through the “revolution” has told me the same story, that Che was a ruthless man who enforced harsh and sometimes ridiculous laws by sending Cubans to a firing squad at will!

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On May 14, 2005, cheche wrote:

Hi-I dont wanna upset anyone.  My sister and brother family are cubans.  after seeing the “che” shirt on so many people i got curious and bought one.  But then i started reading his books.  for some reason what he said made sense to me.  That everyone should be treated equal.  castro is a horrible man.  and i know that che was “friends” with him.  But to my belife of cuba now a day che would not stand for that.  castro went into cuba took over took the money and greed and left the people. che was someone who wanted to help the people.  he wanted everyone to have the same treatment as the person next to them.  since buying the shirt i have read almost all the books on che and im fasinated (im sorry im spelling so bad its a long day). Trust me, the last thing i would want is a person who would kill people.  I do not believe in murder.  But lets look at america.  maybe bush is not taking the gun directly to the people in iraq but in a way he is killing these people.  my husbands best friend just died their.  I do not believe that all countries should be communist but i think if their is a right person to be able to treat everyone the same then good.  come some countries half is starving and half is rich.  like look at all these famous people eating 1,000 dollar dinners while children suffer and die everyday.  the people need to stop thinking about GREED!  no one is better then the person next to them.  please do not hate me,  for believing what i believe.  i do not like castro i wish him the worst.  but che if he was alive would have taken care of the cuban people.  im positive.  thank you
natalie

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On May 02, 2006, chacha wrote:

Che was a saint who dedicated (and ultimately gave) his life to creating a better world.

Read his own words and you will see.

Don’t be misled by a small group of bitter extremists in South Florida.

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On May 11, 2006, Art wrote:

Saints don’t have Firing Squads as part of their tools to spread their angelic words. Saints don’t use hatred to fuel wars or advocate similar ideas.

The irony alone that Che stood against everything this country (U.S) represents should be enough for any american to not wear his shirts, hats, dipers or whatever other nonsense they want to slap his face on.

If they had a shirt with Antonio Maceo I would wear it, thats a true Cuban hero.

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On May 22, 2006, Brad wrote:

Actually, saints do tend to use hatred to start wars…look at the crusades, muslim extremists, the far reaches of any religion really.  I, personally, wear Che apparel because I respect a man who could dedicate a life to uprising and revolution.  Obviously, it’s easier to relate to another person who feels slighted by the government, and so I find it a lot more convenient to wear a shirt with the image of a person who embodied the idea of revolution, something I, unfortunately, cannot embrace fully yet in my life.

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On February 17, 2007, Junie A. wrote:

Well I’m not cuban. I don’t wish to offend anyone. I’m 50% mexican and 50% native american and I live in San diego. One of my Aunts told me everything about Che. I think if he was to me a life right now he would not like to see people wearing his face on a shirt and not knowing who he is. I respect and Admire Che for what he did. For the people who don’t think the same way I do I’m sorry…
I just wish I had the plessure to meet Che.

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On June 29, 2007, Heather wrote:

Well, I am reading a book by a man who escaped Che’s era when he was a child.  His name is Humberto Fontova.  The book is “Exposing the Real Che Guervara: and the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him”. 

Reading this it is clear that people like Jessee Jackson and Jay-Z should not be sporting Che wear and exalting him since his own diaries called black people “indolent and fanciful, spending thier money on frivolity and drink”.  Jackson against the death penalty should know that Che had over 14,000 people executed.  His plot to blow up several American sites should be noted and the fact he wanted to use atomic weapons against Americans: “If the nuclear missiles had remained we would have used them against the very heart of America, including NYC” and “We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims…we must keep hatred alive adn fan it to paroxysm”  sourche London Daily Worker 1962 (Nov)

You CAN get anti-che shirts—google them. I wear one proudly!

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On January 29, 2008, totti wrote:

natalie you are so right man u should give me your number so we can meet or something but thats what i always thought.i hate that the call me a communist well not really but im not che just wanted what was good for the people and that lead him to his execution. i just say sometimes you gotta do bad to get the good and thats what che did take for example the atom bomb it was bad it killed millions of innocent people but at the end ended world war 2, thats what che did if he had how many people that girl said he killed it was for a good reason. HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE

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On March 26, 2008, Tom wrote:

Ok, Che was a bad man. He may have had great ideals, but tourturing peolpe to realise his utopia was stupid. Stooping to the level of the American administration, then and now. I am a socialist, but I resent being associated with bourgious idiots wearing Che tops because of this. They do not understand the full horrors of the Che era in Cuba, and if they do, they actively support a mass murder. Just because he labeled himself a Communist Revolutionary does not mean you yourself have to support his ideals if your a leftie. I wanna know how totti can say people’s deaths are a good thing… thats messed up.

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On April 01, 2008, Justin wrote:

So should I go around wearing a Hitler t-shirt because he was a revolutionary?  I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Hitler shirt because he slaughtered people.  Guess what, so did Che.  Revolutionaries do not slaughter, they lead.  Did our founding fathers slaughter?  No, they fought like hell but they didn’t line people up and shoot them at point blank range…

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On August 06, 2008, Craig Somerville wrote:

A truly great man, he did conduct the trials and executed some of the secret police from Batista’s era. Plenty of people got off and only those found guilty got what they deserved.
These people were the usual CIA backed vermin. Bush is responsible for murdering thousands of children, do you think because you kill a child by dropping a bomb on him from 20,000 ft, it makes it ok?
How many inocents have USA presidents murdered since 1945?

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On August 06, 2008, manfredz wrote:

Think the truth is somewhere between both justin’s and craigs positions.
Am sure lots of people lost their lives or livelihoods through Che and otehrs that were not just bad bad guys.  At teh same time I wouldnt use Che and Hitler as similar figures by a long shot.

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On September 06, 2008, Gabriel G. Marini wrote:

Guevara was a murderer. Yes! I´m a Brazilian boy and, around here, others marxists killers ARE in power. I suspect that if somebody would sell hitler t-shirts everyoune would be angry. Now the facts, Communism around the world killed even more than nazism, but it seems that no one cares. Both ideologies should be prohibited( By the way, in Uraine, it IS prohibited, cos´ millions of people have died by starvation under the hands of Stalin) for the evolution of democracy.

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On October 21, 2008, Che Kills wrote:

The comparison of Che & George W. Bush is ridiculous.  Each man should be judged individually and in context of their goals. 
Bush ordered an offensive to destroy terrorist groups in defense of the country he swore to protect.  Regretfully, as in all wars, innocent people died.  The end result of his actions: The USA has not been attacked since 911 and the people of Iraq and Afghanistan are free to prosper and control their own destiny.
 
Che Guevara with his altruistic ideology murdered all who disagreed with him only to serve his own ambition.  The end result of his actions: The Cuban people have suffered for the last 50 years, the war in the Congo still rages, the Soviet Union collapsed under its own oppressive weight, and to avoid the fate of the USSR “The People’s Oppressor that is China”, which Che admired, is slowly becoming capitalist to survive.  This is good for the Chinese people!
In the end Che is a failure just like the ideology he professed.  Communism equals death.  It contradicts human nature and Che understood this.  That’s why he aimed for a “new man” that acts on moral obligation and not economic incentive.  This ideal would be great if it were achievable, but history has shown it to fail every time it is tried.  Especially when tried through force.
Democracy and a respect for the rule of law is freedom, and capitalism is the cure for poverty.  So go buy your stupid T-Shirt with the murderer on it.  Don’t forget your O.J. Simpson shirt while you’re at it!

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On January 18, 2009, walker p wrote:

Che was a coward and a bloodthirsty, brutal, sick, inhuman monster - a true sub-human freak. Anyone who idolizes this cowardly idiot is a brain dead moron and coward. Unfortunately, there is a large group of people who cannot handle the truth - they are called liberals and Democrats (or Dumbocrats as I call them). Despite the endless hypocrisy and intolerance of liberals, they are outmatched in their hypocrisy and intolerance. As hard as it is to believe, one group is even more hypocritical and intolerant than liberals. That group goes by the name of Islamo-fascist cowards - they practice a phony religion called Islam. But, I am getting off track. Che was a mass murderer. Only liberal idiots and clueless young people would idolize this inhuman monster.

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On March 13, 2009, Kate wrote:

To Walker P and all you other Idiot Right-Wing Bush-bots… you all have a lot of nerve.  You say liberals practice hipocracy AND intolerance???? Wow, what a %&#! joke, especially coming from members of the most intolerant, racist, homophobic, xenophobic and mysogenistic people on the planet.  You’re the epitome of the “ugly American” and the very reason why so many people-including our allies, DREAD US… Bush and all his other FASCIST PIG clones should be tried as WAR CRIMINALS ... but of course since you’re so busy telling OTHER people how they should live THEIR lives, you wouldn’t see that… Oh, and Justin, our forefathers DID slaughter NATIVE AMERICANS and stole their land.  I’m sure that I’ll get bombarded with nasty messages about how I’m such an Anti-American Commie, but before you all make absolute ASSES of yourselves with your embarrassing America-can-do-no-wrong naivete’, make sure you prepare a nice hot cup of GO %&#! YOURSELF first.

Have a lovely day.

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On March 14, 2009, publisher wrote:

Okay folks.

Let’s keep the comments focused on Che and not expand the conversation into a broader topic.

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On March 15, 2009, Mike T wrote:

OK easy off the insults on both sides. First of all in order to make an educated comment on Che one must read and know history. What was Che part of ? a failed revolution or robolution (robo as in theft). Why did Castro send him off to Bolivia ?, not to export revolution there, but to get rid of him since they didn’t see eye to eye and Che openly critized Castro’s headstrong leadership without new elections. Was Che a murderous leader ? yes Che was head of the firing squads and those sentenced to die were found guilty in kangaroo courts without proper defense representation. Che was known to involuntarily drain the blood from the veins of those sentenced to die as a measure of saving this drained blood for army blood banks. Those whose blood was involuntarily drained were so weak that they could not stand in front of the firing squads and had to be tied to chair while being executed. So why would anyone want to identify with murderous Che by wearing his face on any type of garment?. For a more realistic depiction of Che’s life watch “Che” the 1969 movie version with Omar Shariff playing him, rather than the recently released version by Benicio Del Toro

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On May 05, 2009, stephanie wrote:

hey everyone, i think everyone should just stop writing ” i hate che articles” or” i hate che t-shirts” articles, because no one cares. ! most of the world loves him so get over it ok. if your going to talk bad then you must be able to know your history and back it up. he has an amazingly good side to him so dont be so negative and judgmental.

geeeze, get a life peeps, and if your tell me to get one, shut up because im on this website for strictly business on gathering research for my , ” others peoples perspectives on Che Guevara. so there ,
Get A LIFE

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On May 05, 2009, publisher wrote:

No need to be condescending to other people who have their opinions and facts.

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On May 05, 2009, kmsmith1210 wrote:

Hey Publisher: If you or Walker P and your ilk can’t take it… then don’t dish it out.  You didn’t seem to comment on Walker P’s ignorant message regarding liberals… obviously, you’re just another right wing “follower”. Ugh… crawl back to Havana or from whence you came.  Remove me from this forum if you’d like as I prefer to discuss politics with creative thinkers and lovers of diversity.

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On May 06, 2009, paul wrote:

God bless Poland!

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2009/04/28/poland_to_ban_images_of_iconic_psychopath_and_massmurderer_che_guevara

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On May 06, 2009, manfredz wrote:

Interesting to mention Poland. 
When I came back to Canada in 1994, Poles were making a killing selling nazi paraphenalia in the border towns to Germans who werent able to buy such within Germany where it is banned.  There is a 3 or 4 word reference to that in the article mentioned. To put such an emphasis on Che and just a passing mention of Hitler in the same law, I find very strange.

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On May 20, 2009, blahblah wrote:

Have any of you read the Motorcycle Diaries? And not seen the stupid knock off movie version? Che was a poignant and magnificent writer and thinker who saw lots of insight into the world.. there is good and bad to everyone, but when I wear his shirt I am embodying the romanticist thought he encouraged and the idea of starting a revolution against despot leaders.

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On May 21, 2009, paul wrote:

Starting a revolution and becoming a despot is more like it.  You might as well wear a Pinochet shirt while you are at it.

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On May 21, 2009, manfredz wrote:

lot of American govt officials and especially in the CIA were de facto wearing his shirt by allowing (and some claim) even assisting in his murdering spree.

One of the ironies of governements (its not just the US that plays this game) - critisizing one governement by supporting anotehr governement that is as bad, if not even worse (besides Pinochet, the Greek junta in the 70s comes to mind).

Just like today the govt is insisting on reforms in Cuba without making them of an even greater abuser of human rights, China.

Don’t get me wrong.  I wish the Cuban governement were more respectful of human rights as well as being a more democtatic government, but selectively pointing fingers isn’t the way to bring it there.

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On May 26, 2009, Achev wrote:

I didn’t know anything about che until i saw a baby t-shirt in a store. It had his picture and said “I don’t know who this is?” I then got into a discussion with the sales clerk who told me she didn’t even know for sure! She told me that he was some kind of rebel who took from the rich and gave to the poor but eventually got out of hand and started to kill people. So I decided to do a little research about who he was and what he was about so i could see for myself. As i was researching i came upon this forum. I am slightly undecided whether to admire or loath che. He seems to be on 2 ex stream sides. One thing I do feel is that everyone has a right to there own opinion.
Thanks

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On May 26, 2009, paul wrote:

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On July 02, 2009, Cody wrote:

I’d just like to point out how fitting it is that the Che apologists posting angry vitriol seem to be about as educated in the use of grammar as they are in political science and world history.


Hardly people capable or worthy of intelligent, objective debate.

Although there is something somewhat humorous about watching upper-middle class white kids who get their “history” from Rage Against the Machine albums and who have never left their respective states lecture actual Cubans with relatives who have actually lived through the Terror on what Che was really like.

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On November 06, 2009, sax wrote:

with respect to Che, Fidel, Chivas, Jose Marti, the Zapatistas and the people who have stood up for South American independence and the ideals of socialism. I once had on my wall a traditional Che Guevara poster as an expression of my support for the international peoples revolution. Since then i have taken that poster down to be replaced by pictures of the likes of Ghandi and the Dalai Lama.
I respect Che for his courage in standing up fighting, working and dying for what he believed in. He has truly had a great influence on the minds of the next generation of socialists and for this he should be proud.
As for why i took his poster down, i simply cannot condone violence even for such a noble cause, there must be another way. His virtues were many, but he was by no means a saint, let him go down in history as a man who tried with all his physical might to act on his sense of international consciousness. Whether or not violence was necessary i will leave that up to you lot to argue about.
however in the end we will all go down on the same ship.
While we live let us walk softly, with love, modesty and wisdom our only weapons.

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On December 02, 2009, Che is a dead madman wrote:

Every time I see someone wearing a Che shirt I ask them why are they in the United States Of America? Shouldn’t they be down in Cuba, or enjoying Chavez world. It is such a great system “agree with them or die” shut up and thank God you are here. What cracks me up is these same people come to the U.S. for education. Then they go home and dominate with tyranny. They use hating the USA as a control while they sip champaign fooling the masses. Chavez lives large he thanks you for his elite status dummy. Castro had a really good life thanks to Che’s death squads. Then when Castro saw Che as a threat he had him shot in Bolivia. Look at the list of people Che shot they were educated and wealthy.

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On December 02, 2009, Che is a dead madman wrote:

Read these words by Juanita Castro. Che was a murderer of freedom.

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On December 26, 2009, K.Raymond wrote:

I completely agree with “Sax” above.  That was a well written and thought out statement.

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On December 31, 2009, Cydd wrote:

This is a late comment but I find it necessary. How many things that the Che detractors on here written don’t come from either CIA writings or the mouths of some Cuban exiles? You know kinda like the upper-elite who fled the country because they feared (rightly so) retribution from an angry populace who were out for revenge after years of being swindled by these people? I’ve looked up many of these claims and he did command firing squads. My question is whats your point? He didn’t personally preside over even half of those executions! He just signed the order and in many cases he was killing members of the old regime! As for those trumped up charges of him being some kind of vampire…well I haven’t even found a reference to that yet.

Strange also that his detractors would mention Pinochet a man propped up by the US government, who armed and financed him. (Any pictures of his coup show his troops with US equipment not Russian). This man was decidedly evil. Saddam Hussein, propped up by the US, Osama Bin Laden, trained by the CIA and given special weapons by the US government, Manuel Noriega former CIA agent who took control on the CIA’s orders only to be toppled by the US when he started to go rogue and disobey so the US had to topple thevery tyranny they hepled install. Beautiful. Same with Saddam.

All these are examples of men who were installed by the US in order to benefit itself no matter the cost. Yet you criticize a romantic who fought and bled and at most commanded firing squads? There are CIA agents who did the same thing. Yet somehow they’re innocent? I can’t say the firing squads were right or justified. But what I can say is that calling him a murderer for that is insanely laughable. The man is an icon for what he believed. This clap trap damning him is one of the biggest double standards ever.

His ideals were grand. But what you should remember is that he was only a man.

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On January 09, 2010, Todd wrote:

His ideals where grand?

Perhaps people haven’t read his books and are basing their opinions on MOVIES?

Che HATED those who didn’t share his Marxist views… Period. As much as you might feel like a young rebel, if you are not a Marxist, Che would be fine putting a bullet in your head, period.

He was, by all unbiased accounts, a total failure. He ruined the Cuban economy, reduced the standard of living for over 70% of the Cuban population at the time (it has never recovered), failed in 3 attempts to start other revolutions, and by many Cuban accounts, did not lead one successful attack during the Cuban revolution.

He did NOT believe in freedom of speech (well documented), freedom of religion (well documented), nor did he believe in a free economy.

Perhaps the most telling argueement is that those who SUFFERED under the rule of Che hate him. Those who (by the very notion of wearing his T-shirt) stand up against EVERYTHING CHE believed in seem to think he is great. Ironic, right?

Also, let’s not say that ‘at best’ he might have ordered the death of some people. He pulled the trigger plenty of times, and when questioned, stated that he doesn’t believe in DUE PROCESS… Seriously.

So if you believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of choice, due process, commericalism, or capitalism, then why would you ever consider wearing a CHE shirt?

If you are black or white why would you wear a Che shirt? His racist remarks have been published in his own words.

If you like the freedom to wear a Che shirt, then Che wouldn’t have liked you.

He was also wanted to Nuke America…. :(

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On January 25, 2010, Che is a murder! wrote:

If wearing Che shirts is aloud then why not wear Hitler shirts as well. Che was a hitler to cubans, why don’t people understand this. And your right he was friends with Fidel.. and helped him reach his goal of having Cuba being communist. before people wear a shirt with a slogan on it they should do there history first, and if you want to continue to wear it then get the hell out of the U.S.A and go to cuba were your rights as a citizen will be taken away.

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On January 25, 2010, allabouttruth wrote:

Amazing how many socialists (progressive, Marxists, Maoist etc) are on this site and call themselves Americans, or maybe they do not call themselves Americans. Maybe they share the same hate for America that our current President and his wife do.

Either way, I had no trouble finding information about who this man was, what he thought, what he said, the thousands of people he murdered only because they stood in the way of his socialist agenda. You know, the end justifies the means.

I was also taken aback buy the acceptance of most of the Progressives on this sight to condone this murderous communist and somehow try to justify his actions. Are you people serious. Is your idea of a revolutionary someone who murders and kills only to promote his own ideals and agenda, and will stop at nothing to silence his adversaries.

Our own founding fathers fought as revolutionaries; however they fought for the freedom of the people, to install a democratic Republic that gave the people the power, not some twit named Che so he could advance his Marxist theories at the price of the people of Cuba.  Oh, and by the way, has not really worked all that well for Cuba has it. The Cubans can not get out of Cuba fast enough, kind of like the USSR, North Korea etc. If progressivism is so great, why are the people under its rule willing to risk their lives to escape it?

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On January 27, 2010, Cliff E. wrote:

How About wearing the image of someone who died for all mankind while never killing any of them?  JESUS CHRIST!!

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On February 05, 2010, cool kidd wrote:

I agree with cliff E.

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On February 06, 2010, Hy wrote:

A number people have been killed in the name of Christianity - so called witches, pagans, infidels, and heretics to name a few - basically anyone who doesn’t agree…in a myth. No Jesus shirt, no thanks.

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On February 11, 2010, Imma wrote:

I think what did “che” in, was all his speeches about “his aim is to crush the capitalist and imperialists (thats us) at all costs, he even said if the russian missles were still in Cuba he would use them to attack America. (even at the expense of woman and children).

our “way” of life was totally “alien” to him.  Private property would all be with the government, you would work 100 percent for the Government.  Freedom is not an option.

why do you think Communisim collapsed???

what baffles me in Cuba he was at the top of the food chain.  he threw it all away to live in the bush. (and that was rough) . 

I really think he was “mentally sick”  he had to be.

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On December 10, 2010, will wrote:

it’s just amazing that so many people think he was a hero saw a great article on how much h sucked here http://rulehibernia.com/2010/11/retarded-people-think-che-guevara-is-cool/ - some of the comments after it are hilarious lol. I swear the stupidity and ignorance in the world is something to behold

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On December 12, 2010, DJ Audekraft wrote:

It seems to me that people are naturally inspired by revolutionaries because they are unhappy with the current state of their government or society as a whole. So in essence, to hear about someone revolutionary becomes inspirational regardless of what the “truth” about these revolutionaries may be. Rather than see their revolutionary heroes intact with their vices as well as their virtues, many people choose to see only what they want to see.

I believe it is a possibility that like many of us in life, Che had good intentions. And like many of us perhaps something happened along the way that led him down a wrong path in pursuit of ideology. Perhaps an act of desperation while becoming jaded with his then current role of being a revolutionary. We will most likely never know for sure.

Desperation involving control of power and the mass spreading of ideologies always begins with rash decisions and ends with death. The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, 911, Jihads, The Civil War, the Cold War, WWII…and these are only a handful of the most commonly known tragedies that this world has faced.

One would think that somewhere between history books and these continuous displays of stupidity throughout the years that there would be an understanding that this is not how we evolve as human beings.

It goes back to what I mentioned earlier, people only see what they want to see.

People don’t see death they are blinded by a false sense of honor. They don’t see mass murder they see foreign policy.

Please note that I am not victimizing Che nor condemning him. I am simply saying that only an individual has the right or the power to condemn his or her self. When we condemn ourselves in public, we condemn ourselves in the eyes of the people. That’s just the way it works and it is why actions will always speak louder than words. It is also why bad actions resound longer in the minds of people. While I believe that judging people is wrong, inaccurate and all too often influenced by bias, I also believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

So in regards to this Che discussion, I will say this.

I was not there and even if I was, there is no guarantee that I would know the truth.

So whether you wear a Che shirt or an anti-Che shirt doesn’t matter. All that matters is what you stand for. You can glamorize love or hate for Che but either way it is unjustified on both parts because only Che knows what’s in Che’s heart.

Che may have written down his thoughts at the time, but how often do we as human beings change our thoughts? One could argue and say “But he killed people!” While I agree that killing is wrong, one should stop and ask one’s self, “If I believed in an ideology, would I kill for it?” Yes, KILL, not FIGHT, because to fight in war is to be willing to kill. Now remember, freedom is an ideology too just like communism. Now is Che such a bad guy? Now are we such a good guy? By now if one is honest with his/her self he or she should be able to see the line that divides US from THEM beginning to blur, most likely even being erased.

My advice on this would be to stop looking for reasons to divide each other and start looking for reasons to unite each other!

Che led his own life, if you want to be inspired by his perseverance as a revolutionary or for whatever reason then so be it. If you don’t like Che, then so be it as well. However, I advise that a person should develop his or her own ideologies and learn how to work together. Don’t try to be different but don’t try to be the same either. Try to be yourself. Being different is not a problem, it builds character; it allows us to learn from each other. In my opinion it tempers our will and helps formulate individuality. 

So on that note…

The greatest opponent we will ever face is our self. The greatest form of teaching is to live the lessons that we speak of. Live, love and learn! I ask that we all try to understand each other.

I love you all and hope everyone is having a great day!!

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On December 12, 2010, uncle sam wrote:

just from reading all these comments one can see that the ones who were there, or are related to ones who were, hate che… most of the pro che sentiment comes from people who live in a free dictatorless society.. they’ve never had to deal with a state run society where everyone is FORCED to be the same.
American communists/socialists are ingrates of the highest degree!  they love their freedom to speak out against their country, and use it as often as they can, in order to fight for a totalitarian regime that forces everyone to be the “same”... get a clue.. all it took was 2 communists to kill over 100 million people: stalin and mao ...
but im sure thats just capitalist pig scum lies!

POWER TO THE INDIVIDUAL!

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On January 08, 2011, gregbo wrote:

The facts are that Che became less and less interested in revolution and more interested in killing and torturing people. He was very intelligent and very well read in philosophy, etc. Nevertheless at some point he chose to become a monster—this is a fact—not right wing rant. BTW Ernesto hated the individual and individual freedom. He viewed it as an artifice of the bougeoisie. I think the confusion comes from first of all, Castro’s propaganda about Guevara and secondly Guevara’s early writings were idealistic. Later though he talked only of hate and fueling hate and hating the bougeois and hating the Yankee and then had cuban children executed while watching—sorry but he became a twisted Hitler like soul.

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On January 24, 2011, TheMick wrote:

Interesting diverse and perverse comments and thoughts here. Che was a polarizing figure that I find fascinating. Neither Saint nor devil, but a hybrid, if you will. He did lead firing squad services in Cuba but also literacy squad services that were successful. Played a large part in the Cuban missile yet was deeply moved by a trip to Hiroshima. Believed that only revolution would bring about change yet chastised the UN for not dealing with human rights abuses by South America (apartheid) and the US (RACISM and KKK). Look at his writings from his early travels in South America particularly Guatemala and seeing what the United Fruit Company was doing with great help from the US government to people to understand his hatred of US Imperialism. Realize that this was a brilliant young man who was shaped by tragic events that led to many acts, both good and bad.
  Do I believe that George Bush, Dick Cheney and various wall street thieves should be pulled from thier homes and hanged? Yes. But if I do it would I not become a monster?
For the record I am not a communist or socialist but I look at my world and think a “market correction” is in order.
I have been to Cuba and I know Che did not hate the individual, and believed in people becoming landowners. Many of you here on both sides need to read more.
Viva Revolucion

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On February 21, 2011, hello2323 wrote:

In my opinion Ernesto “Che” Guevara committed good and bad things. I believe he kill because he needed to. Many people say Che was an idiot and killer, I say no hes not and Idiot, He is a killer though but had his reason. If you did not believe with his ideas you were executed, that was his way of getting rid of corruptness. In my point of view he did not kill innocent people but he kill those who were a threat and corrupted. He travel to South America and what he saw during his trip is the oppression of the lower class(The Poor). He wanted to change that so he did in the Cuban Revolution, he wanted the kids who did not learn to write or read to learn to write and read. Same with the Congo he wanted to start a Revolution there because it had a revolutionary potential but the leaders were corrupted he had to flee and was a failure. I read most books on Che and books that supposed reveal the truth about Che. I don’t care if people think Che was a bad person, in my opinion he was a great person who wanted change and did not want the minority to be pushed around by the high power. True that Cuba is or was in a bad condition, but that’s Cuba. I just admired Che of what he accomplished even though some say it was a failure. Che inspires me in many hes a hero to me and that’s final that’s my opinion and no one can’t change that. 5 to 10 years from now non-whites in the United States are going to be exterminated.

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On March 25, 2011, JLW wrote:

All of the people against Che’ can apparently put together proper sentences and spell words correctly.  The majority of Che’s supporters haven’t seemed to master writing and spelling yet.  It is no wonder they want revolution, they are too illiterate to actually work and accomplish something.

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On March 25, 2011, themick wrote:

That is the best you can do jlw? Mix in a bit of research. Listen to peoples interviews who were there. Then write an opinion. Saying that those against me are illiterate is a fox news editorial, not a true reflection of someones well thought out bias. Glen Beck, line 1

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On April 13, 2011, ocen Douglas (Uganda) wrote:

Basing on what i have read about Che,i really think he was areal fighter with the heart of humanity considering the fact that he even fought against Yankee imperialist in Congo.I don’t want to annoy any body but i see no difference between a western nation that supports a dictator like Idi Amin to take over power and start calling him as the right man for Uganda and later on start casting him. As for Americans CHE was the right man to deal with them, they shouldn’t condemn him, they are birds of the same feathers and i wish he had boomed them becuse the only language imperialist understands is that of the gun nothing more.  ( For God and MY Country) PATRIA O’MUERT VENCEREMOS.

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On August 01, 2011, killermusic_1 wrote:

Id just like to say, “THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS”